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► The Marauder’s Map
It’s the bitch of living
With nothing but your hand
Just the bitch of living
As someone you can’t stand
(Quelle: peregrint)
Firstly, I love it when people tag their creepiness and complete dismissal and erasure of Jonathan’s sexuality with his name.
Secondly, you know who says he’s gay? Jonathan Groff. You know who I believe when it comes to people’s sexualities? The person themselves. Say “Oh this is all for ~fiction~” or whatever you want, but you’re using real quotes from a real person talking about the real sexuality of a real person. You know, seeing as Jonathan got so much shit for being out and playing a heterosexual character, I think it’s even grosser to post stuff that implies that he’s lying because you think he’s secretly banging Lea.
Also, don’t say “Well people ship Achele/Crisscolfer and no one jumps on them” or whatever. If only because
I think all RP shipping is creepythere’s not exactly a history of straight people being told that they’re just in the closet and they’ll discover their homosexuality when they meet the right person of the same gender, or how they have friends of the same gender so they must be gay/lesbian, or heterosexual celebrities being forced to act gay and constantly keep up the appearance of being in a same-sex relationship in order to avoid backlash and other shitty things.THAT TAG. I could not have said it better myself. (although I don’t believe you’re sorry)
FIRSTLY, I hate it when people decide to shit all over something when the post was factual and not hurting anyone. Were you HURT by reading this when you simply could have ignored it? I’m really not sure how a collection of quotes is creepy or dismisses Jon’s sexuality. The post was ABOUT HIM so it was tagged with HIS NAME. I don’t know what your issue is, but I’m going to go ahead and share a bit of wisdom with you: Jon doesn’t need you or anyone else to defend his sexuality. There is a grand total of one person that knows how Jon feels and that is Jon. He’s not being hurt by a list of things HE SAID ABOUT HIS BEST FRIEND.
SECONDLY, yes everyone is aware that Jon is gay. I love him so much and I commend him for everything he’s done, including coming out and dealing with the shit he took from people. I think he is brilliant in any role he plays. I’m not sure why the shit he took for playing a heterosexual character is…relevant here, though? MOREOVER…this was not fiction. This is a real post, of real quotes, and real pictures of him and Lea. And that’s it. It’s just the quotes. We haven’t put anything into a context, you did that all on your own.
I want you to listen and really HEAR this, okay? NO ONE IS TRYING TO MAKE HIM STRAIGHT. I cannot be any clearer than that. NO ONE WISHES HE WOULD CHANGE A SINGLE THING ABOUT HIM. HE IS PERFECT. But you know what? Even if we DID wish he were straight, that would be AN OPINION, and one that’s not hurting you at all.
As for all that last part…I really don’t even know what to say. It seriously sounds like your taking your no-RL-shipping-because-it’s-creepy rule and giving ships like Achele/Crisscolfer a pass because it would…what? Equal out some karmic scale between queer-straight? That not only doesn’t make sense, but it’s just as offensive as any great atrocity you think groffchele shippers have committed. But again, I have not met a single groffchele shipper (including the OP) that thinks Jon will be “fixed” or “normal” or “better” if he were straight. You are straight up putting words into people’s mouths and it’s not okay.
You’re looking for something to be offended about and you’re picking a fight because groffchele makes you mad because it’s Queen Bitch Lea linked to Perfect Angel Baby Jon. You need to grow up and realize that not everything can or should be turned into a fight. You need to realize that when you say things like this about stuff that people spent time on, you’re hurting them.
And most of all, you need to realize that your opinions and your experiences are not always going to be the same as those of other people. Learn to live with it. Because, I promise you, you’re not always right. In this particular instance, just for example, I know for a fact that there are plenty of queer people who are not offended by the post. So you should probably think before you start throwing around phrases like “erasure of sexuality.”
Opinions are always shades of gray and not black and white. So before you go around personally attacking people, stop and think for one fucking second.
(also I just want to say I saw your other post. don’t you DARE tell me or anyone else that we can’t call ourselves fans. or that we’re “fucking gross.” taking shipping opinions to personal attacks? not okay at all. not even a little bit. grow the fuck up.)
yeah, basically. this hits on so many of my pet peeves about double-standards in fandom and I just, am frankly, sick of this bullshit debate by now, so I’ll leave it at the fact that any additional arguments I would hope to add could never live up to the succinct, straight-forward nature of beth’s post, so. instead, I leave you all with this gif to sum up all my feelings on this beautiful, perfect reply:
(Quelle: androgenius)
9 gifs per episode - 1x01 “Genesis”
“They’re here. Among us. In the shadows. In the light. Everywhere.”
(Quelle: imnotaserialkiller)
So I’ve been seeing a lot of things on my dash lately that have been making me really uncomfortable, and I realized that a lot of the people doing these things were people I like, people I respect, people who I think are genuinely good people who probably don’t realize that they’re doing or why it’s problematic. If you read through this and wonder if it’s about you, it probably is: please don’t be offended. Just take a step back and think instead.
Gay characters on television (in this case, almost exclusively male gay characters) get a lot of attention from Tumblr. This in itself isn’t inherently a bad thing. Gay characters often have plotlines and background that are just as - or even moreso - interesting than those of their straight counterparts. We like seeing something different on our favourite show, we like to feel like the things we’re watching are diverse and inclusive. All of these are good intentions. Unfortunately, what seems to be happening is that this gets taken to a whole other level. For some reason the gay characters have become automatically more interesting than any hetero characters, gay ships are more engrossing than hetero ships (A LOT of which has to do with the internalized sexism that goes on in pretty much every television fandom, but that’s another thing for another day), even if these characters or ships are fleeting or badly written or incredibly problematic, until it gets to this point where you’re shipping any two boys you can get your hands on regardless of actual compatibility, actual well-roundedness, or foundation, or anything other than “Two boys together!”. It turns into this obsession. I’ve seen it happen, I see it on my dash every day.
This takes me to a whole other thing. Shipping people irl is really a huge issue. I don’t mean real person fiction, I’m a part of that fandom myself. Something most rpfers pride themselves on is their ability to compartmentalize real!Celebrity from fic!Celebrity. What I’m talking about is when you’re out to lunch and you see two boys driving in a car together and you ship them. Or you’re at the campus center and two boys are sitting next to each other and you’re secretly hoping that they’ll start holding hands. What you’re doing is fetishizing. It’s as similarly creepy as “breaking the fourth wall” when it comes to rpf except probably more damaging. When one single person tweets something weird or creepy at a celebrity, chances are it will be overlooked and life will move on, but when you get to the point where you’ll ship strangers you see in real life just because they’re of the same gender and attractive, you’re losing your ability to compartmentalize, and as a result you’re allowing your entire perception of gayness to be skewed into something that was made for you to watch.
If you’re still not convinced, think of it this way: if a straight boy was constantly seeing “lesbians” everywhere, or talking about how those girls would look so good together, or making up headcanon about you and one of your platonic girlfriends, you would think he was creepy as fuck, sexist, and probably a pervert. Because he isn’t seeing you or other girls as people with real agency, he’s seeing you as an object to project onto. He’s invalidating your personhood and your sexuality and making your actual queer friends feel like their sexuality isn’t a real identity. That is what you’re doing to these boys; straight or gay, real or fictional, you are projecting onto them and invalidating them.
This bothers me with television because I often see people fawn over these characters who are brilliantly written and wonderfully flawed, but are only being appreciated as a Gay Guy or One Half of My Otp. On the other side of the coin, I see characters who only existed for a couple of episodes, who had no real backstory or meat to them being treated the same way- a way which isn’t really deserved or well founded.
If the only things you can tell me about your Otp are “But they’re so right for each other! They just work! They love each other so much!” then I’m probably not going to take your ship very seriously. I think shipping is excellent. I’m a terrible multi-shipper, I’ve got at least three Otps for just about whatever fandom I’m into. But there has to be some kind of thought there. You can’t just ship people together because they’re the same gender. It’s a discredit to yourself and your characters and your show.
Gayness does not exist for you. Your worship of it as cuter or more real or more meaningful than other relationships is damaging and problematic. Gayness in television and other media is not important because you get to ship it. It is not important because it’s a fuck you to your homophobic parents. It is not important because it makes you favourite show more “diverse”. Gayness in media is important because it is representation for people who have not gotten that in the past, and who are still not getting a lot of it unless they’re male, white, and attractive (or in the case of queer female characters, white, young, attractive, and willing to get naked).
What you’re doing does not make you supportive or an ally, it’s problematic and it’s something we really, really need to try and keep in check. I’m so tired of the gay worshiping fetishism on my dash, you guys. Let’s try to fix it.
THIS. Everyone, please, read.
(Quelle: lostinthemorning)
Let’s start at the beginning.
March 26th, 1985, Jonathan Drew Groff is born to Julie and Jim, the second of two boys. August 29th of the following year, Lea Michele Sarfati becomes the only child of Edith and Marc. Though one of them started out in Amish Country in Lancaster, PA, a couldn’t-be-sweeter-if-he-tried country boy surrounded by baby goats, and the other was born directly into the dog-eat-dog world of New York City, go-getter, jet-setter, and inspiration to people around the globe alike, 2006 had them finally finding each other, their differences inevitably only bringing them closer together. The rest is history.
Or, well, this post, put together by yours truly and the most, most wonderful Beth.
“We definitely connected right away, but I never would have guessed in a million years that we would become as comfortable as we did with one another. Because we are so different, and we’d come from two completely different backgrounds. It’s not like one thing happened; it’s just been a progression, professionally, and friendship-wise, that’s just, I think, always continued to grow.” Lea {x}
“Lea “wasn’t signing autographs” and would refuse to answer questions….when asked how long Jonathan and her had been together, she looked over at him longingly, her arm wrapped around him, and she says “we’ve known each other since winter of 2003..so about 9 years?” Um..Lea..thats not the question. Either this is a very incestual platonic relationship, or Jonathan Groff is not gay, as his Wikipedia article and the rest of America claims…”
Really? You’re gonna use this from an excerpt to support your RL shipping of Groffchele? Imma lay down some reality for you…Jonathan Groff is GAY! G.A.Y. He’s out and proud. He’s been romantic partners with Gavin Creel and now he’s happily fucking and in a relationship with Zachary Quinto.
Why do you people keep doing this? Pretending that Jonathan is faking his “sexuality”? That he’s secretly in love with Lea?
STOP.
let’s start with the tag because…it’s just RIGHT THERE. um. that…doesn’t make any sense? I don’t know what you were trying to say, but as a groffchele shipper I’m pretty sure I feel offended. I mean. if you’re saying you’d rather drink acid than share the internet with us…that’s kind of extreme, isn’t it?
and that flows right in to my next point. what, exactly, did a post of quotes do to offend you so horribly? none were presented in the context of a romantic relationship. they were broken up by the type of quote (Jon about Lea, Lea about Jon, outside pov) and all were presented equally, so…I’m really not sure why you decided that you needed to reblog this with such shitty commentary. groffchele shippers are mostly pretty chill and for you to react to a simple quote post like this is…kind of extreme.
The quote you highlighted was someone else’s opinion on what they saw with how Jon and Lea interacted, not the OP. so. um. why pick that apart?
MOREOVER, you said some other things that were just… :|
Jonathan Groff is GAY!
yep, got it. we know. Jonathan Groff identifies as gay. but I don’t know how much attention you pay to things but he keeps his private life very, very private. you don’t know how he feels about Lea or any other person any more than I do. beyond what he’s said, of course. (which, btw, was the entire purpose of this post.) and that leads very well into the next point.
now he’s happily fucking and in a relationship with Zachary Quinto.
OH REALLY? DO TELL ME MORE. when did they kiss publicly? hold hands? exit each other’s apartments in the morning? go out to a romantic dinner? uh…how about you tell me when either one of them confirmed that they were in a romantic relationship. none of those things have happened. there is absolutely zero evidence to suggest that Jon and ZQ are anything more than friends.
unless…two gay men can’t be friends without fucking? that’s kind of bordering on gay fetishism and you need to check yourself, tbh.
and…the big one…
Why do you people keep doing this? Pretending that Jonathan is faking his “sexuality”? That he’s secretly in love with Lea?
okay. omfg I’m so tired of being accused of this. NO ONE IS DOING THAT. no one is saying he’s faking his sexuality. no one is trying to pretend like he’s straight. Jon is who he is, and only he knows that. he might be fucking ZQ or he might be secretly in love with Lea or he might be happily single right now or none of those. you don’t know his personal life any more than I do.
lastly…
STOP.
NO. I am not going to stop shipping groffchele and I’m not going to take back anything I’ve ever said. NO, I WILL NOT STOP. I am so fucking tired of people judging me or anyone else for shipping this. you can think whatever you want about it (just like I have opinions about grinto and monchele) but that doesn’t mean you should reblog other people’s posts and SHIT ON THEM. so. UH. no, I won’t stop.
YOU STOP.
everything I might have said, beth already said better. there you go.
flkd;ghlkjflkdsjflk;ajf;klafjklahgkljfdslk oh my god oh my god you are so NICE THANK YOU jfkdlgh;ljf;lkadf ;;
chapter two is coming soon!! I promise :D I am hoping to space them out by about a week each, but if I get impatient, it might always end up being sooner!!!!!!
food first. then i read.
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I CAN’T WAIT FOR ALL YOUR FEELS BB YOU DON’T EVEN KNOWWWWWWW :D :D :D
excuses excuses ashley
mte
writing is a loose term i’m really just going to stare at this word document and go “why can’t you write yourself omfg blaine just propose already”
oh yeah I know that feel all too well
ilu2 bb i’m really excited but too exhausted to read rn
but not too exhausted to write ASHLEY THAT DOESN’T EVEN MAKE ANY SENSE
JHGHJGJHGKJHGJHGJHG
fjkdlsghlk;jfdslj; THIS FIC COULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED WITHOUT YOUR HELP, BB. NEVER. NOT EVER!!!!!!
just letting you know i am not ready for this but i will read and cry. oh dear lord.
fdskajgklj;flkasd OH MY GOD I CAN’T WAIT TO FIND OUT WHAT YOU THINK?!?!?! jfkdlsfj;asf;l
saving so i can read later because i know it’s perfection xoxo
jfdklsahgkljfkldsdaf sobs ily so much omg
Pairing: Melchior/Wendla
Fandom: Spring Awakening
Rating: NC-17
Chapter Word Count: 3,834
Total Word Count: 16,389
Summary: Wendla was supposed to die that night, but sometimes things don’t go quite as planned.
this has been a long time coming, since July of last year after I’d just finished watching Spring Awakening and had instantly falling head over heels in love with it. I hope it lives up to the beauty and magic of the musical.
BECAUSE I WANT THE WORLD TO LOVE IT AS MUCH AS I DO.
SOBS OMG BETH HELP THIS FIC IS ANOTHER ONE THAT FEELS LIKE IT’S ONE OF MY CHILDREN ;____;
I AM SO PROUD OF YOUUUUUUUU. now gimme.
fjdkaljfldsk;fjkdfjlkad GREEDY, ARE WE?? don’t worry I’m about to post so hold on omfg
JFKDLSJFLK;AJFKSA WHY ARE YOU EXCITED YOU ALREADY READ IT jkfld;jlfkas
S O B B I N G
I KNOW I AM SO EXCITED I TOLD YOU I’D FINISH IT TODAY AND I DID OMFG
